The weather of the UK is the best of anywhere in the world. In a few years, it will probably be legal to self-identify as as a cat or dog. Thank you for writing this article, it is absolutely spot on and details my feelings on living in the UK to a tee. It's not as simple though that everyone voting leave agrees with Farage and Boris. Sorry Brandon but I think you are missing the point because Cory is talking about how immigrants are treated . We are English, but we left the UK just after the Tories were voted in. I must also take a moment to express my gratitude towards your concern for my wellbeing. it was a very long sounding Greek name, and the expression on his face just changed as if to say "ohh no can't really do that" you know kind of wincing and shrugging sort of expression. Hi Rachel, I hope your move will go well. Im not alone. Overcrowded and filling rapidly with alien cultures hostile to their host. That so many immigrants come to the UKcomplain about itgo country hopping and then come back, says a lot about Britain, British culture.. and those people. They say they hate the French, but its not French immigrants they have an issue with. And thank you for mentioning how expensive it is to live in the UK! I know that's not the most mature position to take, and I wish I were big enough to stay and work on it for the greater good, but I just don't think I can. This is a wonderful piece. Brexit will force the country to develop the regions and become less dependent on London, which in turn will reduce the pressure on housing in the South-East. Those are the people who will wonder how come that people voted Brexit? They enjoy free movement and actually, the vast majority don't have full-time jobs in the country of residency. I'm a chav! [20], In a February 2005 article in The Times, Julie Burchill argued that use of the word is a form of "social racism", and that such "sneering" reveals more about the shortcomings of the "chav-haters" than those of their supposed victims. [21] The writer John Harris argued along similar lines in a 2007 article in The Guardian. Nobody is going to vote "leave" and nobody is going to vote for "Trump". No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), lack of corruption, the countryside, quality of regulation, its military, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still content the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. London is a fantastic place full of opportunities, it just needs to match your own requirements. The food quality both in restaurants and in supermarkets is awful, but a Brit friend explained me that's because most people eat to survive not to actually enjoy the meal. That changed everything. There are idiots on both sides, but probably many more thoughtful and intelligent people on both sides as well. but maybe if I was Turkish it would be different. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. Now foreigners or people of colour get beaten up again and regularly so for being who they are. Great post. I'm British. I found it very difficult to make friends in London. I really appreciate your explanation and I am truly glad to hear an argument from the other side of the debate. Can you even have produce GROWING without sunshine? Lol. I am treated like a stellar class citizen. Or is that British humour too? The enchanting cottage, you're right, is not cosy at all when humidity and rain are constant. This results in you learning to cook a variety of world dishes. Economically and socially, I'm afraid to say. As an ex-Londoner now living in Sydney, I can definitely relate to a lot of this - particularly rental prices in London. I cannot accept hundreds of people commenting that "the best interest" of someone's kid is to die, without letting the parents try a lost battle, basically to protect the bottom line of the country coffers. [22] The widespread use of the "chav" stereotype has been criticised. So here you had, a student willing to work and pay taxes, and nobody wanted to help her get a NI number, a Yellow Card or a job. But its like I've always maintained since the vote happened is that lots of people voted Brexit for many complex reasons. [1] ". With comments like this, you know,I wonder. It's just crap and I don't want to live under those conditions. You cant have all the decisions go your way. There are so many Brits in Spain and Portugal. Both Toronto and Vancouver are my favorite Canadian cities, and the road trip from Alberta to BC is very beautiful. London is the 6th Most Michelin Starred city in the world, higher than Hong Kong or Barcelona. See how you feel, see if you like it or not. Honestly its all in how you phrase it, lovely. x. How is it fairer for a British national to claim free education, free social care, free medical from Spain but is not ok to offer the same to another who wants to make a life for themselves in the UK? I believe not only the UK, but the European continent is suffering from a shortage of work and opportunities and this is increasing people's negative attitudes towards immigrants, which are arriving seeking opportunities that simply aren't there. But obviously you're biased because you're an immigrant so you're never gonna understand me. Stories of betrayal. However it was one of the most dissapointing moves in my life. We came third in the Olympics. After 7 years we would like to move somewhere else. Hi Katie, thank you for your comment. I used to think most of my life that happiness was found in places and thought that running to a foreign country would help me deal with my feelings of unfulfillment but it never did. I was not sure what happened with people there, as if everyone is busy and mind about their own business. When you get ill on your travels, take a British penicillin. Hes Britains Trump. Reread if you didn't get it the first time. She travels full time with her husband and is passionate about creating in-depth travel guides. From Little Britain's Vicky Pollard to the demonization of Jade Goody, media and politicians alike dismiss as feckless, criminalized and ignorant a vast, underprivileged swathe of society whose members have become stereotyped by one, hate-filled word: chavs. Germany had low morale and wanted a change in 1940's which allowed Hitler to come to power who blamed, you guessed it, Jews for all of Deutschland's problems. If that happened in the UK, there would be an international outcry. In my case in Prague, some of these romantic ideas just never materialized the way I thought they would, or my perception has changed. Throughout my university years, I inevitably made friends with a lot of politics students. My husband has been fortunate enough to find work in a multi-cultural company (French, Romanians, English and Swiss, all working harmoniously with one-another). You do not need an address in the UK for yourself. Dear awesome British people out there. I guess, home is what you make of it. 2) Generate positive cash flows This article totally baffles me. This is middle class hatred of the white working class, pure and simple. I think the major reason I want to leave (and I think my husband is feeling it, too)) is the amount of work you have to do to earn a normal living, even with professional skills, and the animosity that is spreading throughout the country. I'm sure you will find your (almost) perfect city/country! We are at the stage of "Where to now?" The UK hasn't had to pay for their education and they are not responsible for them until they become Brits. [17] The Guardian in 2011 identified issues stemming from the use of the terms "hoodies" and "chav" within the mass media, which had led to age discrimination as a result of mass media-created stereotypes. Remembering that quote by Edmond Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men and women to do nothing.". thankyou for making me laugh ; that 5minutes of laughter was more valuable than 1000 holidays in the sun. I tried all sorts of clubs and activities but the sense of community that I longed for was just never there. We're in North Yorkshire and we absolutely love it here. I have worked with high ranking government officials in the UK and I have SERVED IN THE BRITISH ARMY. I grew up in the countryside and fell more and more in love with my country with every passing year. The cost of HS2 is mainly in legal fees ! I want to thank You for sharing this post as it contains a lot of details and it has been very useful, thanks a lot for sharing, I Really enjoyed the article, it was well written and So Much of what the writer wrote about British people including the racism, Brexit, political views is Very True. Meanwhile, Brexit 2 years on from your article and as you know, is just soul destroying for so many reasons. Bravo to your writing skills! The difference here is that a small number of bigoted people are using racist rhetoric to manipulate the masses. We love you! Oh, oh, did you travel the British style too? People are lovely, but the drinking culture is a bit over the top for me. Like many new and unexplored places, it needs to be protected from abuse (rise in properly prices, too much tourism and so forth). Since Thatcher, weve moved away from this, making education a major financial burden in a marked departure from the policies of other, more far-sighted Northern countries. It feels like the majority of the population hate being alive, and the infamous make-do and stiff-upper-lip attitude gets to me. View history. In the 9 months Ive been back, I have been diagnosed with depression. I planned to stay and study there with my family for six months before moving somewhere more sunny and exotic, (precisely for that injection of British 'culture' and 'opportunity' ), but was worried about the current Brexit climate. If you come to Canada, feel free to get in touch with me. Would you conceive a white being in the government in Pakistan? [12] This is widely regarded as a backronym. People today in Britain are upset at the uncontrolled immigration. Why did we decide to move out of the UK? There's a lot more than that. Its all about perspective I guess. It's like someone has brought all my thought and captured it in a well written text! I found it. I'm lucky as I have both a New Zealand and UK passport so doors are always open to me. Hi Iain, We have plenty of black and Muslim politicians in the UK, and other EU countries have hardly any. We need to infuse more people with love and courage, for everyone to truly follow their dreams and live life to the full potential. It seems like you're a fighter and I get that because you will still fight for a better life ; even if it means moving back to the UK ! By the sound of things, we have improved immeasurably as a country if you've left. There are so many digital nomad jobs so you don't need to live in London anymore. I know some will agree, whilst others won't. UK is a wonderful country and the best country in the world for people looking for a better life, I live in usa and is not easy here is a tough country but because we are British things are easier for us that is the honest truth but is tough country. But there's no garden without weeds, right? It does have it's strengths, mostly about work, but leisure is not one of them. Until next time, I do hope you find it within yourself to open up and really point out what was ill-informed about the article. In the UK there was always immigration but it was controlled and little, only the best and most suitable immigrants can enter. (I am from Serbia). Scotland is a wonderful place, but ultimately, it is still part of the UK.for now at least :). Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! This was not the intention of this article, to make people afraid or to deter them from moving to the UK. And frightening. Here, in Estonia, the winter is 6 months - cold, sometimes snowing, dark, wet, depressing weather. I cannot tell you if Romania is better, or the UK, or any other country for that matter. Good luck with exploring the new options, looks like you have some stunning countries in mind :). Prices in London: "Unless you share your accommodation, you are extremely rich or live in a partnership with someone, you can't essentially live in London". Now back to Italy and relaxed. Complete and utter rubbish. 02/05/2012 12:25pm BST. After Brexit, I really didn't want to be here any more. Well done!! Were not all like that though! I was alive when Tony Benn was in government and the UK had a 3-day week power shortage and no rubbish collection. So last year bought a house in a mountain town in the Sierra Nevada mountains. The UK welcomed 625,000 immigrants to the last year, even after Brexit, and more than any other EU nation. I live in Norfolk, so I cannot agree with the rain problem (we occasionally have drought issues here) but otherwise I think you have touched upon all the issue that I cannot come to terms with. And since the article is not about this, I'm going to refrain from further comments. To be a global citizen shouldn't be a bane of existence. As an American who used to live in Scotland, I 100% agree with you about the weather and prices (ouch with the pound/dollar!). This way you can still get letters, keep on banking etc It costs a few hundred pounds per year but well worth it. We have a long way to go before we can live in a borderless world, where are all welcome anywhere and everywhere. In fact, it should be illegal to pay for medical care in ANY country in the world. Oblivious as I was at the beginning, I soon realised that I was somehow treated differently than my fellow British friends. Some of the comments are impressively candid behind a computer screen. What kind of life is that? Yes, Australia is far higher cost of living, but the living standards and quality of life is also much higher. The most heartbreaking part is the attitude towards immigrants which Britain seems to have adopted. I do believe it should have its own independence and continue to be part of the EU as its citizens want. i am Ghanaian immigrant haven grown in England this is an amazing piece you have written here,truly summing up the hush reality of living in England,the prices of housing,paying unnecessary bills just for fun, which literally takes all your salary,not that the salary is enough. It took me a couple years to psychologically recover from my idealistic perception of the UK.It took me a decade of living abroad to realise that it is true when people say the grass seems greener on the other side. There are no real national parks, all the land is fenced off, houses are built to occupy the most possible space, 1/3 of the land is in the hands of the aristocracy and the other 2/3 mainly belongs to corporations. "The culture in Britain has moved from brilliant to that of hate, racism and ignorance." yum!). Think carefully. Anyway, I hope I have explained rationally that it's not as simple as how a lot of the press talks about Brexit :-). Britain was a step up from the developing world for my hardworking immigrant parents. Then throughout the 00's until present day the fascist tabloids managed take away what we had gained. Unless you share your accommodation, you are extremely rich or live in a partnership with someone, you can't essentially live in London. No one here believes me when I tell them! Do you honestly think ALlL Brits think Britain is great and we are living in some utopia? I know the feeling of no sunshine. I wish I could say something positive like I think things will change, or at least it's just a minority, but unfortunately I don't think those things are true. People speak various languages. Excellent post with a logical argument and pros/cons clearly explained. They told me they didn't want me because I couldn't spell. I personally think that is more noble. Did I? Try to set up the equivalent of a Ltd. company in Spain, Portugal, Italy, France and you are getting into a storm of bureucracy and taxes. First, the British are NOT RACIST. It took me years of hard work before I could even begin my application as a British citizen. And it was because of these bright minds that I chose to become British too. Maybe not your cup of tea. One of the biggest differens that i saw are the streets, in England they are very clean, and in Chile you can finde a lot of garbage. Our last update reflects that we chose to move back to the UK. My wife and I can't wait to leave London next year. Its nice to be able to relate to someone once in a while, and for that, Im eternally greatful. Anyway I wish you guys all the best for your future wherever it may be. At first I got a bit touchy and defensive around some of the elements but then stopping to think about it, I've actually seen many of my own observations in what you have written. They live, btw, in the diaspora English - older expats, or some of those raised abroad. Kind Regards. Because I am white I could pass for being British or European but I am not. I would love to study in Britain, especially in Bristol ! It all started a few years back when we were walking through the rain on those British rolling hills. The person states,,with no doubt ,, that the vast majority of the people in the UK are racist ! Chilling by the pool exploring the hotel's cultural hotspots? Are we finally getting karma for all the horrific things weve done to other countries? [6], Opinion is divided on the origin of the term. They have Netflix, the internet, consumerism, vacations abroad etc just as we do. I can't help but share your sentiment. My dude, seriously? Just waiting for the contract on my house to run out in July. Oh, and I don't know what 'self-sufficant' is - perhaps you were trying to say 'self-sufficient'? Food for thought! British culture is now 'whatevers' and to even have any expectations or respect is 'right wing' or some sort of phobia or ism. Also the people respect all the transit rules, in England the streets are very neater, on the contrary in Chile they`re full of traffic and disorder. Houses are tiny and cramped and almost comical in size compared to other countries, London . To my mind, Britain is the biggest dump in Europe. Macron says the French would vote to leave the EU if they had the chance and Italy is more anti-EU than the UK. This, sadly, has to be the most ludicrous, ill informed, nonsensical piece of writing I have ever had the misfortune to read. I'm really sorry as a Brit that you had negative experiences of racism, especially as someone who clearly learnt the language and integrated into the country. However, there are few things which surfaced with this whole Brexit situation. This isn't really a new thing. Travelling doesn't come cheap in the UK. Romania is a beautiful country. In fact, we think it was the best decision ever. Both children born here , is so hard , really hard . [35], In the "New Earth" episode of the BBC TV series Doctor Who, the character Lady Cassandra is transplanted into Rose Tyler's body (Billie Piper). I apologised and ran out crying, feeling desperate and marginalised. I had to work lots of overtime to buy food and pay for my transport to work, I was working 65+ hours a week just to survive. You should point out it is illegal for Muslims to convert to another religion in the UAE. I got lost several times and people don't even bother to help after I asked for directions. Hey! The term is used to describe an anti-social lower-class youth dressed in sportswear. We've just moved to the UK and we're loving it so far, though we are probably still doe-eyed and innocent about it all. I lived alone in a small flat in Birmingham, my wages covered my rent and bills and nothing else. I am sorry you didn't get to see as much of the UK. I've held 3 stable jobs since I was 16, and in each on I was the minority. It wasn't all bells and whistles because it took me jumping through a lot of hoops to be able to obtain what back then was called a Yellow Card. For Eastern Europeans, the UK is the worst place in the world after Italy and maybe also France and Spain, This article is a good article, and basically expresses many truths of English society, I am glad that even you as an immigrant have noticed. In all honesty, once upon a time, I would have laughed at such article. "[19], A BBC TV documentary suggested that chav culture is an evolution of previous working-class youth subcultures associated with particular commercial clothing styles, such as mods, skinheads, and casuals. My eyes *roll* when White EU Nationals scream racism when British people call them out for treating their country like a hotel (with many paying hostel rates). Think beautiful places in Scotland, stunning beaches in Cornwall and romantic places in England. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education and world-class universities, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), countryside, regulation, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still contend the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. Throughout the years, I lived a relatively calm and happy life. I know exactly how you feel as me & my husband are going through the same. Wow, this was an incredibly interesting read. While supermarket prices are very low, rent, utilities, council tax and eating out is astronomical compared to other countries. For all of the previous eras' racism, the opportunities and quality of life were much higher for the fewer immigrants that came here. It was really interesting to read this from another perspective. 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